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Google Private Data Collection: Company ADMITS Snooping Via WiFi Networks, with Commentary

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May 16, 2010

 


Google Private Data Collection:
Company ADMITS Snooping Via WiFi Networks,
with Commentary

 

See Google Private Data Collection: Company ADMITS Snooping Via WiFi Networks, © The Huffington Post, May 14, 2010, by Bianca Bosker, quoted verbatim, with commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans:

This post was published on Daily Kos, May 16, 2009, under the title Concerned About Privacy on the Web? I’ll Give You the Skinny About So-Called Privacy!.

In a blog post published Friday, Google admitted to ‘mistakenly’ collecting sensitive private data sent over WiFi networks.

Germany’s data protection authority (DPA) requested Google audit the WiFi data collected by its Street View cars. The audit revealed that contrary to the company’s claims, for at least three years, Google has been collecting payload data (the information users send over a wireless network) from non-password-protected WiFi networks. A programming error from 2006 was at fault.

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Explaining how this collection of sensitive data occurred, Google’s Senior VP of Engineering & Research Alan Eustace said, “Quite simply, it was a mistake.” He explained, “An engineer working on an experimental WiFi project wrote a piece of code that sampled all categories of publicly broadcast WiFi data. A year later, when our mobile team started a project to collect basic WiFi network data like SSID information and MAC addresses using Google’s Street View cars, they included that code in their software—although the project leaders did not want, and had no intention of using, payload data.”

Google outlined the steps it plans to take as a result of the mistake. The company says it intends to delete the data “as quickly as possible.” It has already grounded its Street View cars, and will halt collection of WiFi network data.

Additional measures include:

* Asking a third party to review the software at issue, how it worked and what data it gathered, as well as to confirm that we deleted the data appropriately; and
* Internally reviewing our procedures to ensure that our controls are sufficiently robust to address these kinds of problems in the future.

Google tried to mitigate concerns by clarifying that none of the private data was used in Google products and only “fragments” of information were collected.

The admission comes following outspoken criticism from Germany’s Federal Data Protection Commissioner Peter Schaar, who was “horrified” to learn that Google’s Street View car cataloged private WiFi network data like Mac (Media Access Control) addresses and SSIDs, in addition to snapping pictures of public streets.

Read Google’s full blog post here.

rjc999 on Huffington Post explains how this could happen in a featured comment:

Google doesn’t care about your home, the point of the WiFi collection is to map location of WiFi routers. Why would you want to do this? Well, if you have a mobile device which doesn’t have built in GPS (laptop, iPhone 2G, etc) and you want to have it determine your location for geo-based webapps, the way this currently works is to look up the GPS location nearby wifi routers and triangulate it.

It’s nothing more than a mechanism for enabling cheap GPS in every device without requiring GPS satellites. Nothing more, nothing less. And the reason Google is doing it is so that they don’t have to waste money on licensing data from SkyHook or Teleatlas.

Yes, that’s right, your WiFi router has already been mapped multiple times by multiple companies with their own fleet of geo-recording cars.

Visit Google Street View and see what the fuss is all about.

Read the discussion about this at the Democratic Underground.

The most quoted and extensive article about this on the web may be the Associate Press’s Google grabs personal info off of Wi-Fi networks, AP, May 14, 2010, by The Associated Press, here hosted on CNBC.

You can also read about this on NPR: Google Grabs Personal Info Off Wi-Fi Networks, NPR, May 14, 2010, by Martin Kast

Also see Google admits wi-fi data collection blunder, BBC News, May 15, 2010, by Maggie Shiels.

Commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: ha ha ha… this is the biggest tempest in a teapot I’ve heard of in a while. PRIVACY??? You people are still concerned about privacy? ha ha ha haha…ha. HA!

Concerned About Privacy on the Web?
I’ll Give You the Skinny About So-Called Privacy!


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Probably for as long as there has been a functional internet (or at least since the beginning of 2006, as I recall), the F.B.I. has stored an untraceable, untouchable cookie on ANYONE’S computer that has ever used the internet. Yes I mean everybody… Too bad lawbreakers… I guess they’re just too busy to bust you so far….

See Announcing the FBI’s New Public Source Information Program (pdf). Don’t say you weren’t told.

Microsoft, for it’s part collects all the emails that are sent over the internet, I believe, and not just the ones sent on Hotmail or with Outlook. It keeps these in a huge database where the emails are sorted by keywords.

Ever wonder why, when you call your internet service provider for tech support that they always almost demand that you install their Help software? And then there are TOOLbars….

Let’s talk about Internet Explorer, shall we? Long, long ago, in a kinder, gentler universe, in other words in the days of Internet Explorer 6, when for example there wasn’t so damned much digital rights management built into media players, you could pretty much surf the web and do whatever the hell you wanted. Internet Explorer 7 changed all that and collected all the data Microsoft is capable of collecting about exactly what you do on the web. However, with Internet Explorer 8, Microsoft has outdone itself. Geeks knew about Internet Explorer 7, referring to it as a “snitch” and used alternative web browsers such as Firefox, which has long been the choice of intelligent geeks.

But now, with Internet Explorer 8 on your computer, the game has changed just a wee scotch in favor of Microsoft. IE8 is built into all Windows computers now. It used to be that you could download Internet Explorer, but now, if something goes wrong with the code you are basically screwed because it is considered part of the basic Windows operating system and not something separate you can download easily from Microsoft. Wait, we’re getting to the good part: so IE8 is built into your computer right? Well IE8 collects all the data and loads all the cookies that ANY web browser you use acquires, whether you are using IE8 at all or not. Snitch par excellence! Don’t believe me? Just use Firefox and spend a day surfing the web, and then use a reasonable computer “cleaner” such as CCleaner (have I mentioned you really should have this?) to clean up the computer. You’ll see that Microsoft Internet Explorer was right there watching all the time, and that, for example, it loaded all the cookies which your Firefox browser loaded. Just letting you know.

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(Helpful Hints: If you really want to keep your computer as “clean” as current privacy allows, you should have CCleaner and also ATF Cleaner and use them BOTH frequently. Do be careful which options you select when you run them. You’ll find that one complements the other and using both you can keep a pretty clean system. Just a thought. And if you want something for spyware, adware and even most viruses, I’d really suggest getting Malwarebytes. Go there and download the free version. Basically, this is the tool of choice of many if not most professional computer repair techs these days. It won’t slow down your computer because the free version has no “shield”, but is extremely effective against almost all malware put out there by the baddies. Be sure to update the “definitions” each time before you scan your computer. Another very good free anti-malware tool is SUPERantispyware….

Let me be clear that you still need a good antivirus software program on your computer and three very good FREE ones can be found at cnet download.com, by which I mean AVG Free, Avira or Avast, all decent choices; maybe I’d suggest Avira. Can’t be too careful these days. I still use Webroot, and in my case I use their premium package “Internet Security Essentials” which costs $59.95 a year (usually $49.95 for renewal). I guess knowing what I know now that is something of an extravagance and not necessary as one of the free antivirus programs mentioned will give you a good “shield” while Malwarebytes is now the program of choice to clean a computer of any bad infections, in the opinion of many geeks. For issues with how Windows itself runs or if after you’ve cleaned up your privacy traces and are sure you have enough memory (RAM), your computer still runs slowly and/or has a lot of errors, I’d suggest either Advanced System Care Pro ($19.95 and worth every penny) or Registry Mechanic ($29.95). I guess I’m a little backward as I run mine way too often. There are a lot of really bad registry editors and system optimizers out there, too. I’d feel safe with either of those I just mentioned. Some geeks say to only run your registry editor after you have a very definite problem on your system, or once a year, whichever comes first. There now, I’ve told you most of my tricks… show some luv and share this post with your friends if you’ve found it at all valuable.)

Heck, now all my geek friends (not to mention Webroot) are going to be mad at me for giving “secrets” away. I’ve tried to give you a summary of tricks I’ve gathered over years of experience…. A clear violation of the “Giving Away Geek Secrets to everybody when only the privileged few are Supposed to Know” Act.

Now let’s talk about the Patriot Act, the final nail in the coffin, removing all doubts anyone ever had about having any privacy.

Under the Patriot Act’s provisions, the National Security Agency monitors all electronic communications in this fair land. Communications between Americans and foreigners of course receive special attention. All these communications are sucked up into NSA’s supercomputers where they are sorted by keywords. Certain keywords trigger human analysis…. we can all guess what sorts of keywords NSA might be interested in. But with the NSA, we are talking about ALL electronic communications. In other words, internet activities, emails, cell phone communications AND landlines (and god knows what else).

Now, me, personally, I suppose I am a member of the Press, aren’t I? That means I get the DeluXe Treatment and EVERYTHING electronic I do is given special human analysis by NSA. I’m so lucky!

For a little sense of “proof” about the whole business, I just ran a little experiment. First I closed out all my programs. Webroot Internet Security Essentials had updated about a half an hour ago… Then I ran first CCleaner and then ATF Cleaner to remove all temporary files, cookies and privacy concerns. Then I did a full sweep with Webroot. Right now there are four untouchable cookies on my system, because that’s how many Webroot counted, and of course after you run the privacy tools (which are, I assure you, quite effective), all cookies are theoretically “gone”. But I’ve got four that apparently nothing can touch…. Actually I’m surprised. I used to get six or seven when I did this trick. Maybe “the boys” have realized that I’ve graduated into into the geek big leagues or maybe I’m just getting a little respect these days….. Dream on, right?

Finally, the next big thing in what is called “forensic computer science” are the “slack files” that are on everybody’s computer, basically forever. Nothing you do on a computer ever really is gone, there are traces of your activity, whatever it is, and one of the main places these traces remain are the slack files. Not the log files, the slack files. No, I had never heard of them either. A lot of people know about the “log files” and these can be deleted if you know how, but not the slack files. I’ve got a friend at Best Buy who right now has designed and is marketing forensic software that can peer into computers and analyze these slack files, which remain after all traces of temporary and even log files have been deleted. They say after you die you still live on if there is one person on earth who remembers about you… computer’s are sort of like that… Nothing ever really disappears that you do on a computer, it’s there forever, and now they’re coming up with commercial software to analyze those traces. (Got that, you perverts?) Brave New World indeed. I imagine our intelligence agencies have had this capability for quite a while now.

All I’m saying, folks is…. with this latest Google concern, you’re talking about some very small snippets of private data gathered randomly by a Google hirees traveling around in vans… Give me a BREAK….. PRIVACY…. lmao Privacy har har har….. That dream ended long ago.

See How PATRIOT Threatens Online Civil Liberties, Electronic Frontier Foundation, no date.

See Epic Fail in Congress: USA PATRIOT Act Renewed Without Any New Civil Liberties Protections, Electronic Frontier Foundation, February 26, 2010, by Kevin Bankston. You guys wanted us to be safe from terrorists??? Well… now …we’re “safe” right?

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RELATED news: See U.S. Is Still Using Private Spy Ring, Despite Doubts, The New York Times, May 15, 2010, by Mark Mazzetti, excerpt quoted verbatim:

WASHINGTON — Top military officials have continued to rely on a secret network of private spies who have produced hundreds of reports from deep inside Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to American officials and businessmen, despite concerns among some in the military about the legality of the operation.

Earlier this year, government officials admitted that the military had sent a group of former Central Intelligence Agency officers and retired Special Operations troops into the region to collect information — some of which was used to track and kill people suspected of being militants. Many portrayed it as a rogue operation that had been hastily shut down once an investigation began.

But interviews with more than a dozen current and former government officials and businessmen, and an examination of government documents, tell a different a story. Not only are the networks still operating, their detailed reports on subjects like the workings of the Taliban leadership in Pakistan and the movements of enemy fighters in southern Afghanistan are also submitted almost daily to top commanders and have become an important source of intelligence.

"When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, you have tyranny." — Thomas Paine.

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Message to Obama, Karzai and Congress: Americans and Afghans Need Jobs, Not War

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May 13, 2010

 

Message to Obama, Karzai and Congress:
Americans and Afghans Need Jobs, Not War

 

Message to Obama, Karzai and Congress: Americans and Afghans Need Jobs, Not War, CommonDreams.org, May 12, 2010, by Code Pink:

President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan is in Washington this week to meet with the Obama administration and Congress about the status of the war. Despite the platitudes coming from both sides, the conflict is intractable and there is no military solution. President Karzai is well aware of this, which is why he is organizing a peace gathering (called a jirga) in Afghanistan starting on May 20 to set the ground rules for negotiating with the Taliban and other armed insurgents.

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After much pressure by Afghan women, 200 of them have won the right to be represented at the 1,200-person peace jirga. CODEPINK supports the jirga as a step in the process of negotiating a settlement and the reintegration of insurgents while demanding respect for women’s rights.

This is a delicate process that requires the full commitment and energy from the U.S. government. Instead, our government is focusing on a new military offensive. The looming June military attack against Kandahar will undoubtedly lead to the death of more innocent Afghans; it will lead to the spilling of more of our soldiers’ blood; and it will lead to more resentment and blowback against us, as we saw in the attempted Times Square bombing.

Just look at what happened in Marjah, where February’s offensive left locals feeling more negative about NATO forces than before the operation. Unlike Marjah, Kandahar is one of Afghanistan’s largest cities and the potential for massive civilian casualties is frightening. Tribal leaders and the public in Kandahar are strongly opposed to the forthcoming attack.

We call on President Obama , the Commander-in-Chief, to call off the Kandahar offensive and instead focus on peace talks. We need President Obama to protect us from terrorist attacks here at home, not wage endless wars overseas.

We call on President Karzai to promote a reconciliation process that ensures Afghan women a prominent place at the table and protects women’s rights. President Karzai should also promote economic policies that provide jobs for women, especially the over one million war widows who are desperately trying to care for their children.

We call on Congress to stop funding the war. Congress has been asked by the Administration to approve a $33 billion supplemental request. The money is supposed to pay for the 30,000 additional troops President Obama ordered to Afghanistan in December and are now starting to arrive for the offensive. Congress must take a stand and refuse to fund the war.

We also call on our Congressional representatives to co-sponsor the McGovern-Feingold bill (HR 5015, S.3197) requiring the President to provide a plan and timetable for “the safe, orderly and expeditious redeployment of US troops from Afghanistan.” There are presently 82 co-sponsors of this bill. We hope over 100 representatives will sign on, and the bill will generate a long overdue Congressional debate about the need to end this war.

We call on the American people to join us in calling for jobs, not war. After 9 years of U.S. occupation, Afghanistan remains one of the poorest countries in the world. They need jobs, not war. The American people are suffering from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. We need jobs, not war. With just a fraction of the over $270 billion we have spent on this war (www.costofwar.com), we could be creating millions of jobs for both Americans and Afghans.

Let’s demand that our leaders put an end to this war and instead protect us here at home. Let’s tell them our national security includes a good education system, clean energy, healthcare and putting people to work in productive jobs that improve the lives of our communities.

CODEPINK is a women-initiated grassroots peace and social justice movement working to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stop new wars, and redirect our resources into healthcare, education, green jobs and other life-affirming activities.

See Obama’s Afghanistan: No Political Strategy, No Benchmarks, No End Point, Politics Daily, May 12, 2010, by David Wood, excerpt quoted verbatim:

Afghan President Karzai’s meetings in Washington this week ended with no sign of a badly needed joint political strategy to buttress the U.S.-led military campaign.

In official meetings and public appearances over two days, neither Karzai nor administration officials defined what they want Afghanistan to look like in one year, or five, or 10. Nor did anyone mention benchmarks that could help chart progress or lack of progress toward that goal.

See Afghanistan Crossroads: Highlights from Karzai’s meeting with Obama, CNN, May 12, 2010, by CNN Wire staff.

See Karzai, Clinton wrap up visit in televised meeting, AP News hosted on Google, May 13, 2010, by Matthew Lee (AP), excerpt quoted verbatim:

WASHINGTON — Afghan President Hamid Karzai is wrapping up a four-day visit to Washington with a televised give-and-take with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The Obama administration has done its best to repair strained relations with the Afghan leader, its partner in the war against militants in Afghanistan. Karzai, meanwhile, will continue to seek to convince Americans that his regime is worth fighting and dying for, with a visit to Arlington National Cemetery and private talks with top lawmakers.

After a Capitol Hill lunch hosted by Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry, D-Mass., Karzai was to appear with Clinton at the U.S. Institute of Peace for what was billed as a “moderated discussion.” They were expected to talk about the ups and downs of the relationship and the way ahead.

Karzai leaves Washington on Friday. Before heading back to Kabul he is expected to visit Fort Campbell, Ky., home of the 101st Airborne Division, which is going to Afghanistan over the next several weeks, according to U.S. and Afghan officials.

Visit ReThinkAfghanistan.com.

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Seymour Hersh on Obama Being “Dominated” by the U.S. Military

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May 9, 2010

 

Seymour Hersh on Obama
Being “Dominated” by the U.S. Military

 

Seymour Hersh on Obama Being “Dominated” by the U.S. Military, Michael Moore.com, May 8, 2010, by Seymour Hersch, quoted verbatim:

Seymour Hersh spoke at the Global Investigative Journalism Conference in Geneva on April 24, 2010:

REPORTER: You didn’t include Obama in your list of liar presidents. I’m wondering if you would include him also?


HERSH: To use a basketball or a football analogy, American football, fourth quarter – he may have a game plan. At this point he’s in real trouble. Because the military are dominating him on the important issues of the world: Iraq, Iran, Afghan and Pakistan. And he’s following the policies of Bush and Cheney almost to a fare-thee-well. He talks differently. And he’s much brighter, he’s much more of the world. So one only hopes he has a game plan that will include doing something, but he’s in real trouble, in terms of – he’s in real trouble.

In Iraq I don’t have to tell anybody the prospects – in the American press they never mention Moqtada Sadr, but look out. He’s going to be the kingmaker of that country. He’s now studying in Iran. And he’s going to be the next ayatollah-to-be. I don’t know how he’ll work it out with Sistani. But he’s going to be the force, the Shia. And so this is going to be very complicated for us because the two men we talk about, Allawi and Maliki, have about as much to do with the average Iraqi – they’re both ex-pats. Allawi, let’s see, he was certainly an American agent and a British agent, the MI-6, the CIA, the Jordanians ran him probably for Mossad. I’m not telling you anything that is not a fact. So who knows?

So Iraq is very problematical. There’s going to be much more violence. Whether it’s civil war or not it’s going to be much more violence.

He’s never going to win, whatever that means, in Afghanistan. The only solution in Afghanistan is a settlement with the Taliban. And the only person to settle with is Mullah Omar, and he’s become another Hitler to the American public. So how we’re going to do that and survive politically?

And the same in Pakistan. He’s got the wrong policy there. So it is – and again for Obama, Iran’s not resolved, in terms of, the Iranians have come out of this crisis stronger than ever. We don’t want to believe that.

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Will Obama Say Yes to Afghan Peace Talks?

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May 8, 2010

 

Will Obama Say Yes to Afghan Peace Talks?

 

Will Obama Say Yes to Afghan Peace Talks?, Truthout, May 8, 2010, by Robert Naiman, quoted verbatim:

Afghan President Hamid Karzai is coming to Washington next week to meet with President Obama. Afghan government officials have said that their top priority for these talks is to get President Obama to agree that the US will fully back efforts of the Afghan government to reconcile with senior leaders of the Afghan Taliban insurgency in order to end the war.

On the merits, saying yes to the Afghan government’s request for US support for peace talks would seem like a no-brainer.

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Either Hamid Karzai is the legitimate president of Afghanistan or he is not. If Hamid Karzai is not the legitimate  president of Afghanistan, then Western forces must leave the country immediately, because they have no legitimate basis to remain. But if Hamid Karzai is the legitimate president of Afghanistan, then it’s a slam-dunk that his government’s policy of national reconciliation ought to take precedence over Pentagon demands for more killing.Either the opinions of the people of Afghanistan on questions of war and peace in their country matter or they do not. If they do not matter, then everyone in Washington pontificating about “democracy” or “governance” or “legitimacy” or “corruption” in Afghanistan please shut up immediately and remain silent. If the opinions of the Afghan public do matter, then it’s a slam-dunk that the Afghan public’s demand for peace talks ought to take precedence over Pentagon demands for more killing.

Every Western press report from Afghanistan that addresses this issue says that the overwhelming consensus of public opinion in Afghanistan supports peace talks to end the war.

Just this week, Jonathan Steele reported in the Guardian that across Afghanistan, talking to the Taliban is seen as “the only credible way” to end the war, “even among Afghanistan’s small but determined group of woman professionals.” Steele interviewed a range of Afghan professional women to illustrate his point.

Member of Parliament Shukria Barakzai explained why she supports peace talks:

“Everybody has been trying to kill the Taliban but they’re still there, stronger than ever. They are part of our population. They have different ideas but as democrats we have to accept that. Every war has to end with talks and negotiations. Afghans need peace like oxygen. People want to keep their villages free of violence and suicide bombers.”

If “Afghan women now overwhelmingly want talks with the Taliban,” Steele wrote, “the same is true of many of the country’s male politicians, particularly the Pashtun.” The perception of many Pashtun politicians is that the US invasion put the warlords of the predominantly Tajik Northern Alliance in power, marginalizing the country’s largest ethnic group, the Pashtun. These Pashtun politicians see a national reconciliation process and new political dispensation with the primarily Pashtun Taliban as a way to end this marginalization of the Pashtuns and incorporate them into the government.

US officials who want to continue the killing concede that the endgame is a negotiated political solution with the Afghan Taliban, but insist that the “time is not right” because “the Taliban have no reason to negotiate,” and that we have to kill more of them to “force the Taliban to the negotiating table.”

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Like Iraq WMD (weapons of mass destruction), this is a stupid lie repeated endlessly by all the stupid people until all the stupid people believe it.

When the US government decides to attack a problem diplomatically, this is not how US government officials talk about it. Instead, they emphasize common interests and opportunities for agreement, seeking to expand the political space for diplomacy. This is equally true under Democratic and Republican administrations; it was true under the Bush administration. The fact that the US government is downplaying the prospect of peace shows you that the US government is not trying to achieve peace. So when US government officials claim that the Taliban aren’t ready for peace, they are really just restating what we already know: that the US government isn’t ready for peace.

Note that a component of the Afghan Taliban leadership has already put a peace plan on the table. In March, a delegation from Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s insurgent group Hezb-i-Islami presented a formal, 15-point, peace plan to the Afghan government. A spokesman for the delegation said the Afghan Taliban would be willing to go along with the plan if a date was set for the withdrawal of foreign forces from the country.

This information is not a highly classified state secret. It was reported in The New York Times.

It’s kind of breathtaking that the warmonger Washington punditocracy can continue on its merry Energizer bunny way, insisting that there is no basis for peace talks, completely ignoring that fact that a fraction of the insurgency has put a peace plan on the table and claims that the bulk of the insurgency is ready to support the plan if foreign forces will agree to a timetable for withdrawal. But that’s what happens when your raw material for analysis isn’t what’s actually happening in Afghanistan, but what other stupid people in Washington are saying about what is happening in Afghanistan. If the stupid people in Washington aren’t talking about peace talks, then the prospect of peace talks doesn’t exist.

Of course, from the standpoint of the warmongers, a peace plan that requires a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign forces is a “nonstarter.”

But from the point of view of the values and interests of the majority of Americans, the opposite is true: the fact that the insurgents’ peace plan requires a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces is a stunningly attractive feature of the insurgents’ peace plan.

Among Democrats in particular, the idea of a timetable for withdrawal of US forces is spectacularly popular.

Already, 82 Members of Congress have co-sponsored Rep. Jim McGovern’s bill requiring a timetable for the withdrawal of US forces, including such liberal heavyweights as Barney Frank and Henry Waxman. Among House Democrats from President Obama’s home state of Illinois, it’s now 2-1 in favor of a timetable for withdrawal, with Representatives Costello, Schakowsky, Davis, Gutierrez, Jackson, Quigley, Hare and Rush co-sponsoring McGovern’s bill, leaving only Representatives Bean, Foster, Halvorson and Lipinski still on the sidelines.

When we compel the US government to accept the policy of a timetable for military withdrawal, we remove the fundamental US obstacle to peace in Afghanistan.Until now, there have been just a handful of voices in the US debate openly calling for real US support of Afghan peace talks, such as Ahmed Rashid, writing in The Washington Post; Robert Dreyfuss, writing in The Nation; Tom Hayden, writing in The Los Angeles Times; and Gareth Porter, in his reporting for Inter Press Service.

But now that President Karzai is expressly meeting with President Obama for the purpose of securing US agreement to back Afghan peace talks, it’s time to make American public support for peace talks more visible.

Jim Fine of the Friends Committee on National Legislation and I want to place an ad in the DC press next week when President Karzai visits, calling on President Obama to say yes when President Karzai asks him to support peace talks in Afghanistan. If you agree, show us some love.

Commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: I remember well the process by which Vietnam fell apart and was lost. I watched our personnel being helicoptered off the roof of the embassy in Saigon, not as a YouTube news clip but firsthand, as live TV. I don’t think it will come to that any time soon in Afghanistan, but the same sort of process is going on with Washington about Afghanistan as went on with Vietnam. In Vietnam it was the “domino theory” that all of Southeast Asia would fall into communist hands if we didn’t hold the line there. In Afghanistan, after eight years of fighting, nothing really has been accomplished. The so-called Northern Alliance has marginalized the majority ethnic Pashtun peoples and they mostly support the Taliban. This is not going to change. Moreover, the Karzai government has shown itself to be corrupt and ineffective.

The answer is NOT replacing Karzai, the answer is real peace talks with the Taliban and a national reconciliation in Afghanistan. About that, Washington raises the red flag of Al Queda influence if the Taliban come into power in any major way. Could not this be part of the negotiating terms in the peace process? Is there some reason not to even have a peace process because of concerns over post-war stability? And has not Al Queda primarily enjoyed strong influence in the region mainly because of the war itself?

Remember that the Taliban are nationalists with no global agenda, and no reason not to exclude Al Queda from the country if that brings power back into their hands, even is some kind of power sharing agreement. They have expressed willingness to do so repeatedly. Their only wish is to have Afghanistan be governed by Afghans and have the foreigners leave, and they have never been a terrorist organization. This is a matter for the negotiating table, not the battlefields. It is time to end this war and stop the hemorrhage of national treasure and lives.

Watch the videos about ending the war at ReThinkAfghanistan.com.

Also watch, The Folly of Attacking Iran: Lessons from History, from JustForeignPolicy.org – 6:20.

See, KBR to Get No-Bid Army Work as U.S. Alleges Kickbacks, Michael Moore.com, May 7, 2010, by Tony Capaccio, excerpt quoted verbatim:

May 6 (Bloomberg) — KBR Inc. was selected for a no-bid contract worth as much as $568 million through 2011 for military support services in Iraq, the Army said.

The Army announced its decision yesterday only hours after the Justice Department said it will pursue a lawsuit accusing the Houston-based company of taking kickbacks from two subcontractors on Iraq-related work. The Army also awarded the work to KBR over objections from members of Congress, who have pushed the Pentagon to seek bids for further logistics contracts.

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