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Health Care Reform Passes: “And the Rest Is Just Noise”

Evans Liberal Politics
March 22, 2010

 

Health Care Reform Passes:
And The Rest Is Just Noise:
(Why the health care bill is the greatest social achievement of our time.)


The New Republic, DECEMBER 24, 2009, by Jonathan Chait:

American liberals have a habit of withdrawing into cynicism and ennui at the most inopportune moments. The 2000 presidential election, and subsequent recount, was one such moment. The most die-hard reaches of the left, deeming the Democratic Party hopelessly corrupt, rallied to Ralph Nader’s fulsome populist denunciation of Al Gore’s subservience to the corporate agenda. Among more moderate quarters, an attitude of wry detachment prevailed. (“G.O.P.-lite, Democrat-lite,” sighed Frank Rich, “For the 95 percent of the country unwilling to go for Ralph Nader or Pat Buchanan, that is the choice, it always has been the choice, and it will still be the choice on Nov. 7.”) Those liberals who did see something large at stake took on an almost apologetic tone, conceding the lack of any inspired positive choice and focusing instead on the dangers of Bush.


The right, meanwhile, was engulfed in passion that occasionally flared into rage. Mobs of chanting conservatives harassed Gore at his residence day after day. Another such mob intimidated Miami canvassers into abandoning a recount then seen as potentially decisive. The left met all this with a shrug.

The denouement of the health care debate has brought about a similar moment in the political culture. The opponents of the bill are full of passionate intensity. The right, of course, is subsumed in rage and paranoia. Conservatives have been joined by fiery liberals like Howard Dean and a slew of left-wing blogs, denouncing the bill as a corporate giveaway and urging its defeat. The attitude closer to the center is more resignation and disappointment. (Frank Rich again: “Though the American left and right don’t agree on much, they are both now coalescing around the suspicion that Obama’s brilliant presidential campaign was as hollow as Tiger [Woods]’s public image.”) The endorsements invariably have a defensive tone—the bill “has some imperfections but is worthy of support,” concludes a New York Times editorial.

At some level, it is possible to understand the roots of liberal frustration. The machinery of Congress has ground away at the health care bill, as it does to almost any bill. But at a broader level, the liberal mood is insane. What has emerged from that machinery is not merely “better than nothing” or “a good start.” It is the most significant American legislative triumph in at least four decades. Why can so few people see that?

Read the full article, here.

See, House sends health care bill to Obama’s desk, MSNBC, March 22, 2010, © by The Associated Press.

From Markos, owner of Daily Kos, on Twitter: “I reassert Jon Stewart’s line to the Republicans: ‘I think you are confusing tyranny with losing.’”

On a personal note: WHO is there is Greenville, OH, who likes Evans Liberal Politics so much??? Email me and let me hear from you!

See MSNBC, “HCR PASSES HOUSE: NOW WHAT”

((21 out of 22 times, reconciliation legislation
has been sent back to House))

For a Good Time, Read
“Feminist Sex Submissive?
How I Reconcile My Politics With My Sex Life”

((Um, I think they used to talk about Partnerships))


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Pakistan intelligence calls for Afghan to be closed

Evans Liberal Politics
March 15, 2010

 

Pakistan Intelligence Calls
for Afghan Border to be Closed

 

Pakistan intelligence calls for Afghan border to be closed, Telegraph.co.uk, March 15, 2010, by Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent, excerpt quoted verbatim:

Pakistan’s intelligence agency has demanded tighter control
of the Afghan border by Nato troops to stop Taliban fighters
escaping its operations in the North West Frontier.

Major General Athar Abbas, director general of Inter-Services Intelligence, said that a cross-border flow into Afghanistan was hampering its campaign to crush the Taliban. “We are at full stretch. I have to say that the border is a joint responsibility,” he said in a presentation to the Royal United Services Institute, a London think tank.

“Nato must stop the cross border flow.”

Pakistan has rapidly expanded its presence along the Afghanistan border, which crosses mountains and deserts, after years of complaints from Nato that it was not doing enough to stop Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters finding safe haven in its territory. According to Maj Gen Abbas, there are now 821 Pakistan army checkpoints on the border, but just 112 Afghan army or Nato posts.

Pakistan officials have proclaimed the success of its operations in the autonomous territories dominated by Pashtun tribes that have sheltered the Taliban.

But a senior official conceded that it had not set a date to launch military operations in North Wazirstan, the mountainous region were Osama bin Laden and other senior al-Qaeda leaders are thought to be sheltering.

“The best we can say is that North Waziristan is being controlled through squeezing effects from all sides,” the Pakistan official said.

“These leaders are having great difficulty communicating and they have been denied freedom of movement.” ….

Read the full article, here.

Commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: There are a couple of important points to make here. First, and perhaps most important, is that it does appear that now we ARE working more effectively with the Pakistani intelligence service, whereas before it appeared we were almost on a Cold War footing with them. That bodes quite well for the future. Secondly, if we ARE going to help seal the border, it will mean many more casualties, more national and world’s treasure and young men’s blood poured into Afghanistan.

However, look at the figures for border checkpoints mentioned above. We really need to appreciate what that must mean for Pakistan, it seems to me, and step up to the plate. In for a penny, in for a pound. Or at least some kind of compromise move wherein we do actually try to better seal of our side of the border more effectively, even if not so effectively as Pakistan would want. First we need to get Kandahar to the point where it’s pacified, and that does seem to be in the process of being accomplished. It seems to me that events are trending inexorably towards the diminishing of Taliban strength and our eventual victory. And that of course, is the whole ball of wax.

John Kasich: Lehman Brothers Crisis Explained

Evans Liberal Politics
March 14, 2010

 

Candidate John Kasich
Lehman Brothers Crisis Explained


Kasich is running for Ohio Governor
(heck I’d take Bob Taft in a minute over Kasich)

Sunday Noon Headlines


Obama’s Health Care Legacy Hangs on 216 House Votes, Truthout, March 14, 2010, by James Rosen of McClatchy Newpapers.

Obama Delays Asia Trip as Dems Wrangle Health Care Votes, ABC News Good Morning America, March 12, 2010, by Jake Tapper: a little old but right on target.

$657M Settlement Reached With Ground Zero Workers, ABC News blog, March 12, 2010, by Aaron Katersky

Talking Points Memo DC Saturday News Round-up, March 12, 2010, by Justin Elliot.

Axelrod: Israel Settlement Approval an ‘Affront’; ‘Insult’, ABC News Political Punch, March 14, 2010, by Jake Tapper, excerpt quoted verbatim:

The President’s top adviser David Axelrod told me that approval of new housing units by Israel in the Arab section of Jerusalem during Vice President Biden’s trip there last week was an “affront” and an “insult”. “What it did was it made more difficult a very difficult process,” Axelrod said in my “This Week” interview. Axelrod added that the move “seemed calculated to undermine” the so-called proximity talks going on between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

Axelrod said a clear message was delivered to Israel over the flap. “Israel is a strong and special ally. The bonds run deep. But for just that very reason, this was not the right way to behave. That was expressed by the secretary of state, as well as the vice president. I am not going to discuss what diplomatic talks we’ve had underneath that, but I think the Israelis understand clearly why we were upset and what, you know, what we want moving forward.”

The issue, Axelrod said, is a “flare point throughout the region” and puts U.S. interests at risk. “It is important for our own security that we move forward and resolve this very difficult issue,” Axelrod said.

The Sham Recovery

Evans Liberal Politics
March 14, 2010

 

The Sham Recovery

 

The Sham Recovery, Robert Reich’s new blog, March 12, 2010, used with permission, quoted verbatim:

Are we finally in a recovery? Who’s “we,” kemosabe? Big global companies, Wall Street, and high-income Americans who hold their savings in financial instruments are clearly doing better. As to the rest of us – small businesses along Main Streets, and middle and lower-income Americans – forget it.

high contrast photograph of Clinton's Secretary of Labor Robert Reich

Business cheerleaders naturally want to emphasize the positive. They assume the economy runs on optimism and that if average consumers think the economy is getting better, they’ll empty their wallets more readily and – presto! – the economy will get better. The cheerleaders fail to understand that regardless of how people feel, they won’t spend if they don’t have the money.

The US economy grew at a 5.9 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter of 2009. That sounds good until you realize GDP figures are badly distorted by structural changes in the economy. For example, part of the increase is due to rising health care costs. When WellPoint ratchets up premiums, that enlarges the GDP. But you’d have to be out of your mind to consider this evidence of a recovery.

Part of the perceived growth in GDP is due to rising government expenditures. But this is smoke and mirrors. The stimulus is reaching its peak and will be smaller in months to come. And a bigger federal debt eventually has to be repaid.

So when you hear some economists say the current recovery is following the traditional path, don’t believe a word. The path itself is being used to construct the GDP data.

Look more closely and the only ones doing better are the people and private-sector institutions at the top. Many of America’s biggest companies are sitting on huge amounts of cash right now, but that says nothing about the health of the U.S. economy. Companies in the Standard&Poor 500 stock index had sales of $2.18 trillion in the fourth quarter, up from $2.02 trillion last year, and their earnings tripled. Why? Mainly because they’re global, and selling into fast-growing markets in places like India, China, and Brazil.

America’s biggest companies are also showing fat profits and productivity gains because they continue to slash payrolls and cut expenditures. Alcoa, for example, had $1.5 billion in cash at the end of last year, double what it had on hand at the end of 2008. Sounds terrific until you realize how it did it. By cutting 28,000 jobs – 32 percent of workforce – and slashed capital expenditures 43 percent.

Firms in S&P 500 are now holding a whopping $932 billion in cash and short-term investments. And they can borrow money cheaply. Corporate bond sales are brisk. So far in 2010, big U.S. corporations have issued $195.2 billion of debt, excluding government-guaranteed bonds. Does this spell a recovery? It all depends on what the big companies are doing with all this cash. In fact, they’re doing two things that don’t help at all.

First, they’re buying other companies. (Walgreen last month spent $618 million for New York drugstore chain Duane Reade; Bank of New York Mellon, $2.3 billion for PNC Financial Services; Monster, $225 million for jobs.com; Diamond Foods, $615 million for Kettle Foods.) This buying doesn’t create new jobs. One of the first things companies do when they buy other companies is fire lots of people who are considered “redundant.” That’s where the so-called merger efficiencies and synergies come from, after all.


The second thing big companies are doing with all their cash is buying back their own stock, in order to boost their share prices. There were 62 such share buy-backs in February, valued at $40.1 billion. We’re witnessing the biggest share buyback spree since Sept 2008. The major beneficiaries are current shareholders, including top executives, whose pay is linked to share prices. The buy-backs do absolutely nothing for most Americans.

(None of this, by the way, is stopping supply-side fanatics from arguing government needs to cut taxes on big corporations in order to spur the recovery. Their argument is absurd on its face. Big companies don’t know what to do with all their cash they have as it is. They aren’t investing it in new plant and equipment and new jobs. So why should the government cut their taxes and enlarge their cash hoards even more?)

The picture on Main Street is quite the opposite. Small businesses aren’t selling much because they have to rely on American – rather than foreign – consumers, and Americans still aren’t buying much.

Small businesses are also finding it difficult to get credit. In the credit survey conducted in February by the National Federation of Independent Businesses, only 34 percent of small businesses reported normal and adequate access to credit. Not incidentally, the NFIB’s “Small Business Optimism Index” fell 1.3 points last month, just about where it’s been since April.

That’s a problem for most Americans. Small businesses are where the jobs are. In fact, small businesses are responsible for almost all job growth in a typical recovery. So if small businesses are hurting, we’re not going to see much job growth any time soon.

The Federal Reserve reported Thursday that American consumers are shedding their debts like mad. Total US household debt, including mortgages and credit card balances, fell 1.7 percent last year – the first drop since the government began recording consumer debt in 1945. Much of the debt-shedding has been through default – consumers simply not repaying and walking away from homes and big-ticket purchases.

This is hardly good news. But here’s the Wall Street Journal’s take on it: “the defaults are leaving many people with more cash to spend and save, jump-starting the financial rehabilitiation” of the economy.

Baloney. As of end of 2009, debt averaged $43, 874 per American, or about 122 percent of annual disposable income. Most economic analysts think a sustainable debt load is around 100 percent of disposable income – assuming a normal level of employment and normal access to credit. But unemployment is still sky-high and it’s becoming harder for most people to get new mortgages and credit cards. And with housing prices still in the doldrums, they can’t refinane their homes or take out new loans on them. The days of homes as ATMs are over.

Some cheerleaders say rising stock prices make consumers feel wealthier and therefore readier to spend. But to the extent most Americans have any assets at all their net worth is mostly in their homes, and those homes are still worth less than they were in 2007. The “wealth effect” is relevant mainly to the richest 10 percent of Americans, most of whose net worth is in stocks and bonds. The top 10 percent accounted for about half of total national income in 2007. But they were only about 40 percent of total spending, and a sustainable recovery can’t be based on the top ten percent.

Add to all this the joblessness or fear of it that continues to haunt a large portion of the American population. Add in the trauma of what most of us have been through over the past year and a half. Consider also the extra need to save as tens of millions of boomers see retirement on the horizon. Bottom line: Thrifty consumers are doing the right and sensible thing by holding back from the malls. They saved a little over 4 percent of their disposable income in fourth quarter of 2009. In the months or years ahead they may save more.

Right and sensible for each household but a disaster for the economy as a whole. American consumers accounted for 70 percent of the total demand for goods and services in the American economy before the Great Recession, and a sizable chunk of world demand.

So what happens when the stimulus is over and the Fed begins to tighten again? Where will demand come from to get Main Street back, create jobs, raise middle class wages? Not from big businesses. Certainly not from Wall Street. Not from exports. Not from government.

So, where? That question is the big unknown hanging over the U.S. economy. Until there’s an answer, an economic “recovery” for anyone other than big corporations, Wall Street, and the wealthy is a mirage.

Commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: Of course, as a Democrat I’d like to think this is a structural problem: influence and lobbyists and the desire to be successful as a Congressman — the problem is Congress and lobbyists and now the Supreme Court decision giving corporations unlimited ability to give to candidates and causes (as though they were people; wait, can people give UNLIMITED sums?). See the post below on signing a petition to stop virtually unlimited corporate power. I actually believe Obama’s heart and much of his administration is in the right place, but Congress is totally in Korporate America’s grasp. Sad that the Republic has come to this…. Let’s take back our country!!!

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Robert Reich was the nation’s 22nd Secretary of Labor under Bill Clinton and is Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley. He has served in three national administrations. In 2008, Time Magazine named him one of the Ten Most Successful Cabinet Members of the century. He has written eleven books, including “The Work of Nations,” which has been translated into 22 languages. His latest book is “Supercapitalism.” For Professor Reich’s book page for Supercaptialism at Amazon, go here. The above article is from Reich’s new blog, and can be viewed here.

Thanks to Professor Reich for permission to publish this large excerpt from his fine article. At Evans Liberal Politics, we give you the truth they don’t want you to see.

Unrelated by interesting as heck:

See, “Tuesday’s announcement that Sarah Palin will become a contributor to Fox News is the next logical progression in her career”, White Rabbit Cult, January 15, 2010, by White Rabbit.

Also see “Meg Stapleton and the filthy lies of Sarah Palin“, White Rabbit Cult, February 28, 2010, by White Rabbit.

Democrats.com – Fight for Freeedom from Corporate Influence

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Evans Politics
March 13, 2010

 

Democrats.com:
Fight for Freedom
from Corporate Influence

 

Today we feature an important message from Democrats.com, verbatim from the website of this overlooked group of progressive Democrats.

In January, five radical Republicans on the Supreme Court overturned 100 years of American law.

They gave huge corporations a Constitutional right to spend unlimited amounts of money to elect candidates at all levels, from Mayor to President.

As President Obama declared in his State of the Union address, this ruling “will open the floodgates for special interests – including foreign corporations – to spend without limit in our elections. I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people.”

In 2009, the Chamber of Commerce spent $145 million to defeat healthcare and global warming laws – twice as much as the Democratic Party. In November, they could spend 10 or 100 times as much simply to defeat all Democrats.

This radical ruling could destroy American Democracy if we do not act in time for this November’s elections. Please join our nationwide movement to keep Corporations out of politics.

Sign the Petition

Al Jazeera English: US withdrawal from Iraq, Plus Election News

Evans Liberal Politics
March 10, 2010

 

Al Jazeera English: Riz Khan
US withdrawal from Iraq, Plus Election News

Independent Arab News Source — 22:30
(you are getting the truth in this video)

 

Elizabeth Warren: “I am afraid of what I see in the real economy.”

Evans Liberal Politics
March 7, 2010
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Elizabeth Warren:
“I am Afraid of What I See in the Real Economy”

 

Originally Published as Warren: “I am afraid of what I see in the real economy.”, Daily Kos, March 6, 2010 by bobswern, quoted verbatim:

Commentary by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: Yes, it’s scary these days in the downtowns of the major cities. I don’t mean the financial districts, I mean the downtowns where regular people live. There it is very scary indeed. Look, here at Evans Politics, we’re NOT anti-establishement, we are just pro-Democrat, and we even disagree with the Party on some things like abortion, which we are largely against. Bob Swern is my favorite economic commentator, along with Paul Krugman. I guess that makes me progressive as to economic theory. But it’s not just us who feel, and in fact KNOW the economy is in a mess of trouble. Just go downtown someday: to the REAL downtowns….. If we don’t get the Fed in some semblance of order, get it “under control” and get the investment banks properly regulated, the second dip of the double dip recession is coming, and soon.

Washington, you sure better get it together and do the right thing. Democrats, if you don’t get the Fed and the investment banks under control, it ain’t going to be pretty come the 2010 elections. It’s kind of hard to feel good about the party in power when you can’t get a job, you can’t pay your mortgage, and the whole mood of the country is in some kind of gloom. There are five applicants for every job opening up these days. Also, one in five people who are still considered job seekers is unemployed or underemployed. Everybody knows it is the investment banks, and the Fed, and yes, Washington, which is the problem. Better get it together boys. Better listen to the people and do what’s right. Nobody’s fooled, just you people who seem to be the fools to me.

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Bob Swern: IMHO, if had to name the two people most spot-on–whose observations and actions concerning the egregious effects that the Quiet Coup has had upon almost everyone but the status quo–about our nation’s historical economic downturn, they’d be Columbia University economics professor and Nobel Prize-winner Joseph Stiglitz and Elizabeth Warren, the Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel on the Wall Street bailout. Charlie Rose had both of them on his show this week.  You may access both interviews, in their entirety, right HERE. I wanted to focus upon Warren in this diary, and her interview is  directly linked: HERE.

Here’s what Zero Hedge had to say about it: “Elizabeth Warren Discusses The Global ‘Enron’: From Wall Street To Greece And Back.”

The appearance of the Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel, Elizabeth Warren, on Charlie Rose is a must watch. In addition to an in depth discussion of the the consumer protection agency, which despite all valiant attempts to the contrary, will likely end up under the Fed’s jurisdiction, thereby making the world’s most powerful cabal even more powerful, Warren touches on a variety of other issues, including the sovereign debt situation, commercial real estate, and the one concept at the heart of it all: the lack of impairments by stockholders (and certainly by debtholders) in what was a bankrupt financial industry. The world would not have ended had banks been forced to readjust their balance sheets: the outcome would have been far simpler – all those who had their collective net wealth associated with the balance sheets, and specifically the equity tranche, of firms like Goldman, JPM, Citi, BofA and Wells would have been wiped out. But why do that when not just they, but the entire government were willing to make it seems that a balance sheet reorganization is equivalent to liquidation. Once again, those at the top were more than happy to take advantage of the stupidity of the morts (whose great desire to be distracted by stupidity like primetime TV is well known to the financial-media complex) and in the process make themselves even richer, and more powerful. Now, we expect yet another blogger to come out with yet another book discussing this and every other deadbeaten horse issue out there. And with time amoral hazard itself will slowly become illegal, as everything, and we mean everything, succumbs to the decision making of the Federal Reserve’s Politbureau. In the meantime nothing will change until democracy itself is reignited in this country.

Warren tells us: “We’ve gone straight from Enron to Greece.” She says, ultimately, it’s all about transparency and honesty, of which there is  virtually none, as far as Wall Street’s concerned. (I posted a diary on this just a few days ago, right HERE.)

Warren touches upon everything from Greece to the too-big-to-fails to wiping out shareholders in bankrupt institutions.

Some snippets from her comments:

On off-balance sheet assets yet to be “marked-to-market” by Wall Street..

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“Enron taught us a few years back, you remember, in fact that the books are dirty, that there is one set of books put out in front for everyone to see, but there are effectively off the book transactions that nobody can see that reflect the real risks that your enterprise has taken. “

On wiping out shareholders who made money when everything was profitable… (i.e.: privatizing profits and socializing losses)

‘Wiping out shareholders who were the people who invested and who had profited from all of the mistakes that these companies had made for years and years and years before that, that’s not hard.  That’s not rocket science.  That’s just a difference on who gets to sit at the table and who gets to walk away with money.”

Warren continues on to remind us that, due to the just-commencing downturn in commercial real estate (CRE), approximately 3,000 of our nation’s 8,000 banks are at risk of insolvency in the course of the next 36 months. In what’s just the first inning of a rather massive commercial real estate bust, it’s really all about how this will affect these banks that just happen to be the same banks that have been the traditional source for capital for much of our nation’s small business. As Warren reminds us, this is one of the basic reasons why small business lending’s become so tight in the past couple of years; banks are building up reserves for the crash and burn ahead.

(Comment by Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: not to mention the great Chinese real estate bubble that’s about to “burst” onto the scene – so maybe it’s a bad pun, but we’re going to have to deal with it. Maybe that will be what triggers the second dip — or the depression we all fear.)

And, on the double-dip Great Recession, the meme that even some of the blogosphere’s most optimistic pundits downplayed up until just the past few weeks…

CHARLIE ROSE: Joe Stiglitz, who you know who was here last night, basically says he fears we’ll see a double dip recession, so the economy has to do with inventory and the end of the stimulus and a whole range of issues, unemployment staying where it is. Do you have that kind of, even though you’re a lawyer and not an economist, fear about this economy?

ELIZABETH WARREN: I am afraid.  I’m afraid because of what I see in the real economy. I’m afraid because I don’t see books that are clean, balance sheets that have been cleaned up.  I’m afraid because in October of 2008, Secretary Paulson came to the American people and he said the problem is toxic assets on the books of the banks, and they’re still there.

–SNIP–

I’m afraid because Secretary Paulson said there’s too much concentration in the banking industry, and there’s even more concentration today than there was…

As Warren closes out the interview she says we have not “…begun to rebuild an economy we can believe in. “

It’s true. As the Senate decides whether or not they’ll even bother to create a very weak, virtual caricature of the Consumer Finance Protection Agency–one without any teeth in it at all; one which Barney Frank just referred to as “a joke”; and one that might very well have been run by none other than Warren, herself–“the truthteller,” Elizabeth Warren, admits she’s afraid of what the future holds for the economic well-being of almost all Americans.

See U.S. Enriches Companies Defying Its Policy on Iran, The New York Times, March 6, 2010, by Joe Becker and Ron Nixon. (And we’re talking $107 billion here.)

Read The U.S. Senate and Bunning’s Universe, Evans Liberal Politics, March 5, 2010 by Paul Krugman.

Find out All about Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, here.

Read The Up-or-Down Vote on Obama’s Presidency, The New York Times Op-Ed lead, March 6, 2010, by Frank Rich.

Obama promises progressives he’ll revisit public option after bill passes

Evans Liberal Politics
March 5, 2010

 

Obama Promises Progressives
Hel’ll Revisit Public Option After Bill Passes

 

Obama Promises Progressives He’ll Revisit Public Option After Bill Passes, The Raw Story, March 5, 2010, by Sahil Kapur, excerpt quoted verbatim:

Progressives may be denied their overriding health care priority this time around, but according to President Barack Obama, it won’t be over with this bill.

image of a wheelchair at the base of a flight of stairs lit with white light at the top and the words 'Public option now'

Obama urged leading progressive Democrats in a closed-door meeting Thursday evening to back the health care bill, placating their concerns about the public option and warning them that the liberal agenda was at stake.

Obama told the group of House members he thought the public health insurance option didn’t have the votes this time, but reportedly assured them he’ll revisit it after the bill’s passage, warning that failure would imperil the issue for a generation.

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) said after the meeting that Obama’s message was, “If this opportunity passes, much of our agenda, on the progressive side…it would be difficult, if not impossible for a generation to get back to this issue,” according to .

“To maintain a strong presidency we need to pass this bill,” Grijalva summarized Obama’s remarks.

The congressman noted in a statement to reporters he was “encouraged” after Obama “personally committed to pursue a public option after passage of the current bill.”

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) added, “He encouraged us to understand that this is the beginning of health care reform, not the end of it — and that we will fix it later, as we have with Social Security and Medicare,” in an interview with The Plum Line’s Greg Sargent.

“He doesn’t believe the Senate has 51 votes for the public option,” Woolsey said. She added that Obama “thanked” the assembled, telling them their advocacy made the bill much stronger and that this wouldn’t be the end for health reform.

Grijalva and Woolsey, the two co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, have lately withheld their support for the bill but sounded sold on it by last night.

Sargent reported that Woolsey said “she’s now a definite Yes on the Senate bill” even if it excludes the public option. The congresswoman last week told Raw Story that if the public option fails she would introduce it in a separate package soon after its enactment. ….

“It’s pretty compelling,” said Grijalva, who on Wednesday told Salon he’s leaning toward voting no, of Obama’s remarks.

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA), chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, said Obama told them in the meeting that “31 million people will have health insurance as a result of this bill.”

Read the full article, here.

See President Obama thanks Progressives For Advocacy to Make the Bill Better, Daily Kos, March 3, 2010, by TomP.

From the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee: Please help with your contribution for the final push on the health care reform bill.