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March 21, 2010
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“There is no deal” on abortion says Woolsey, adding that all pro-choice female Dems will bolt if Stupak prevails.
In Bean, Bishop, Hill in Yes Column, Daily Kos, October 20, 2010, 10:22 a.m., by mcjoan, excerpt quoted verbatim, mcjoan clarifies the situation:
Melissa Bean is a yes, as is Baron Hill, and Sanford Bishop, and Bill Owens. They’ve all been added to dday’s count which he now as “204-206, 11 undecided, 10 Stupak bloc.” The “no” vote added so far today is John Barrow.
As for the Stupak bloc, The Hill reports:
Stupak still commands more than seven votes against the bill, said Rep. Dan Lipinksi (D-Ill.).
“They’re still short on votes,” said Lipinski, a Stupak confederate. “There’s still time and they still need votes.”
Lipinski noted that the agreement that led to Stupak’s stronger abortion language in the original House bill came about at the 11th hour. “Last time, we know what happened: They came at the last minute so we’re continuing to work on it.” Lipinski would not rule out support of an executive action by Obama, but added, “I’ll definitely have some questions about that.”
Shortly after her comments, Pelosi huddled in her office with anti-abortion rights Democratic Reps. Tim Carney (Pa.), Kathy Dahlkemper (Pa.) and Steve Driehaus (Ohio). After exiting the room, Dahlkemper told reporters, “We’re still working on it.”
Brian Beutler reports that Pelosi is also meeting with Stupak. Maybe he he won’t get his separate vote, but he’s still in negotiations to get something.
Update: CNN’s Evan Glass tweets:
Pro-choice Dem women are giving the green light for Obama to sign an executive order reaffirming no fed $ for abortion #hcr
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Update 2: In comments, Faheyman says that Gerry Connolly is about to announce his intention to vote “yes”.
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Also good, but earlier over at Daily Kos is tdub‘s diary, BREAKINGx9: Deal with Stupak is OFF! “We think we have the votes without him.”, 3/20/2010, 7:23 a.m.
This is before there was any talk of an executive order by Obama. Here is the beginning of tdub’s diary:
UPDATEx9: Rep. DeGette of the pro-choice caucus says Dems don’t need Stupak and that she will support an executive order clarifying what everyone with a brain knows already, that the Senate bill will not spend Federal money on abortions. Pelosi also backs the executive order. (HuffPo, h/t Just Keep it Simple Stupid) It looks like “pro-choice female Dems” were a key part of giving Stupak the shaft.
UPDATEx8: Fullest reporting yet at Ezra’s twitter list for the latest! Brian Beutler says there are maybe 1-2 votes still to get.
UPDATE: See The Passage Before the Passage, The Washington Post, March 20, 2010, by Ezra Klein:
The fact that 222 House Democrats voted down a Republican effort to outlaw “deem and pass” as a way to pass the health-care reform bill strikes me as very strong evidence that this bill is going to pass. In some ways, the easiest way for nervous House Democrats to let this thing die would’ve been to hide behind procedural concerns.
See, As sparks fly, Democrats close in on 216 votes, Politico, March 20, 2010, by Jonathan Allen.
Interesting reading is A Guide for Those Traumatized by Right-Wing, Fear-Mongering Lies on Health Care Reform, Egberto Willies.com, March 20, 2010, by Mitchell Bard.
Tea Party sign threatens gun violence if health care passes., Think Progress, March 20, 2010, 4 p.m., by Think Progress.
Is Boehner now threatening violence? (with update), Daily Kos, March 20, 2010, by NewDealer.
Great Live Video of Obama talking with Dems on MSNBC.
Charyl on Twitter has good phone numbers to call Reps to vote YES on HCR.
See, Timing for tomorrow’s votes, MSNBC First Read, March 20, 2010, by Domenico Montenaro: Vote on rule around 3pm, on reconciliation around 5:30, on Senate bill sometime after. Hopefully signed into law tomorrow evening.
See, House Democrats Draw Closer to Having the Votes for Health Care Bill, Truthout, March 20, 2010, by William Douglas, David Lightman and Margaret Talev, excerpt quoted verbatim:
Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives continued scouring for votes Friday among reluctant anti-abortion and conservative Democrats in search of enough “Yeas” to triumph in Sunday’s historic vote on a $940 billion health care overhaul — and they appeared tantalizingly close to their goal.
Democrats picked up five more “yes” votes Friday when Reps. John Boccieri, D-Ohio, Charlie Wilson, D-Ohio, Allen Boyd, D-Fla., Suzanne Kosmas, D-Fla., and Scott Murphy, D-N.Y., all said they’d support the bill. Boccieri, Boyd and Kosmas had voted against the House health care bill in November. Wilson voted for it then but had been undecided about Sunday’s vote.
Democrats need 216 votes for passage, and if no “ayes” switch to “no,” they should have enough. However, qualms about abortion, as well as some other concerns on a variety of topics, kept the outcome in some doubt Friday.
I came across the Speaker’s page on today’s health care reform Press Release, having primarily to do with what the bill does for children, yet strongly indicating that Ms. Pelosi is cooperating fully with Barack Obama and intends to inject nothing but goodness into the health care reform bill via reconciliation. No problems on abortion, and it should get the support of wavering Congressmen once they get the message. I find it highly ironic and sad that the facts about the bill, revealed in this Press Release, have been missed exactly because it was one about our children’s well-being. Highly ironic. Let me just quote the last part of the Press Release verbatim, from the question and answer session after the meeting with children’s advocates:
Q: I wonder if you’ve spoken to Members about [inaudible] a lot of Members are concerned about the Senate bill [inaudible] what are you telling them to get them to vote for the bill?
Speaker Pelosi. Well, remember what we’re asking them to vote for is the reconciliation package. Reconciliation package is of its nature, a budget reconciliation. So it has to relate to the budget. It has to be about the bottom-line of the federal budget. So this is about affordability for the middle-class, which we can do in the budget; it’s about state equity for Medicaid payments to states, which we can do in the budget; it’s about closing the donut hole for seniors, which we can do in the budget; it’s about changing the pay-fors for the bill, which we can do in the budget; and it’s about the reforms that we’ll see how much we can do in the budget.
We cannot deal with other language in a budget reconciliation bill. But that’s what they’re being asked to vote for.
One more question.
Q: Inaudible.
Speaker Pelosi. No. What we’re talking about here is passing this bill. It’s a bill about health care, health insurance reform, it’s not about abortion, it’s not about immigration. If you believe that the law of the land is no federal funding for abortion, there’s none in this bill. If you believe that there should be no expansion or diminishment of abortion rights, that’s what this bill does. The only reason, therefore, to oppose the bill is that you do not support health care reform. And we are taking a vote and I anticipate having the support of those who support health care reform and will not be deterred by any misrepresentations as to what the language does.
Thank you all very much. We’ll be seeing you, I’m sure, tomorrow, with another array of supporters of our bill.
But right now, I want to personally applaud our children for their good behavior.
>>>Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans: and that, says it all. This bill will fly, the votes will be there, and as in the previous article where Rep. Clyburn, S.C., stated his confidence the votes would be there, I’m not worried any more.
See, Health care high noon: Pres. Obama in Ohio for final push, Daily Kos TV, March 15, 2010, by Jed Lewison of Daily Kos:
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Is Our Sexed-up Society Creating Prosti-Tots?,
AlterNet, March 13, 2010, by Daniela Perdomo.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs today told Fox News Sunday that the healthcare bill will pass by next weekend. He added that those on next week’s Sunday talk shows “will be talking about healthcare not as a presidential proposal but I think as the law of the land.”
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According to Gibbs, president Obama is eager to campaign on the new healthcare law coming November. “Once it passes we’re happy to have the 2010 elections be about the achievement of healthcare reform”.
Republicans, how adorable of them, continue to be really worried about the effect that passing this bill will have on Democrats in November. Karl Rove has such good heart, i could waterboard him from love:
“If they pass this thing, I think they lose the House of Representatives this fall”.
And Eric Cantor apparently recovered from the trauma of having the president wiping his stupid smile on TV, and now he’s back to fine whining form:
“They’re bending the rules”.
Oh, you poor baby.
As for Republicans threat to campaign on repealing HCR, David Axelrod can’t wait:
“Let’s have that fight. Make my day.”
And, for those who actually want to REALLY know what’s in the president’s bill, Here’s an excellent summary. Any Democrat voting against this historic bill, should be kicked out of the party tomorrow. Time to show loyalty.
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In Other News: President Obama backs DNA test in arrests, Politico, March 9, 2010, by Josh Gerstein, excerpt quoted verbatim:
President Barack Obama’s embrace of a national database to store the DNA of people arrested but not necessarily convicted of a crime is heartening to backers of the policy but disappointing to criminal-justice reformers, who view it as an invasion of privacy.
Others also worry the practice would adversely affect minorities.
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10 Methods You May Want to Try,
AlterNet, March 13, 2010, by Daniela Perdomo.
A couple of weeks ago, I wrote about what seemed to be a glaring (and quite typical) scam perpetrated by Congressional Democrats: all year long, they insisted that the White House and a majority of Democratic Senators vigorously supported a public option, but the only thing oh-so-unfortunately preventing its enactment was the filibuster: sadly, we have 50 but not 60 votes for it, they insisted. Democratic pundits used that claim to push for “filibuster reform,” arguing that if only majority rule were required in the Senate, then the noble Democrats would be able to deliver all sorts of wonderful progressive reforms that they were truly eager to enact but which the evil filibuster now prevents. In response, advocates of the public option kept arguing that the public option could be accomplished by reconciliation — where only 50 votes, not 60, would be required — but Obama loyalists scorned that reconciliation proposal, insisting (at least before the Senate passed a bill with 60 votes) that using reconciliation was Unserious, naive, procedurally impossible, and politically disastrous.
But all those claims were put to the test — all those bluffs were called — once the White House decided that it had to use reconciliation to pass a final health care reform bill. That meant that any changes to the Senate bill (which had passed with 60 votes) — including the addition of the public option — would only require 50 votes, which Democrats assured progressives all year long that they had. Great news for the public option, right? Wrong. As soon as it actually became possible to pass it, the 50 votes magically vanished. Senate Democrats (and the White House) were willing to pretend they supported a public option only as long as it was impossible to pass it. Once reconciliation gave them the opportunity they claimed all year long they needed — a “majority rule” system — they began concocting ways to ensure that it lacked 50 votes.
(Or maybe, just maybe, the whole abortion issue got in the way of the 50 votes for the public option and the White House was counting. The same people who want the public option or almost all pro-abortion and some more conservative Democrats showed their true stripes. ~ Evans Liberal Politics owner Paul Evans)
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